Vytiahli ste nieco co je davno prekonane ale ked budete uprimne hladat dalej zistite to velmi rychlo.
Blahoslaveny vtedy pravy a kralujuci papez JPII udelil po Notifikacii pozehnanie skupinam TLIG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7jnR8F3Pg#at=12Toto bolo po Notifikacii...
Navyse priamy ucastnik tychto udalosti
Niels Christian Hvidt
Associate Professor
Research Unit of Health, Man and Society
University of Southern Denmark
uvadza suhrnny pohlad :
http://www.cdf-tlig.org/Odporucam preklikat si linky v tomto suhrne, su tam vsetky originalne listy a komunikacia s CDF napriklad v takejto prehladnej forme ako booklet:
http://www.vassula-cdf.org/clarificationsNU/index.html#/1/staci si zalistovat.
Najmensi sa dokaze dozvediet a moze uviest aj vysvetlenia Vassuly na podobne obvinenia ako vyssie citoval.
Zial staci mu obvinenie a vysvetlenie pani Vassuly ani nechcel hladat lebo schopny je a keby chcel, su velmi lahko dostupne.
Ponukam stranku, ktora odhaluje vacsinu zavadzajucich tvrdeni o pani Vassule:
http://www.defending-vassula.org/Su tu vysvetlenia k tvrdeniam o spiritizme, o prepisovani posolstiev, o exkomunikacii pani Vassuly atd..
Preco su
zmeny v posolstvach TLIG je detailne zdovodnene tu:
http://www.defending-vassula.org/alter-reasonsnajmensi citoval tento problem a tu je niekolko rokov zverejnene vysvetlenie:Citácia:
In the particular case below the text was open to misinterpretation and therefore for the sake of clarity God gave me a sign to slightly change the wording. [Ref: Volume II, Trinitas, again, p.112 and p.113, Handwritten notebook no.23, p.51-52]
"Peter! O Peter recognize the End of Times, how is it that most of you cannot tell the Times? Shadowed by Satan under his wings, Satan has digressed many of you from the Truth! Take My Hand Peter, and I will guide you; hear My cry, assemble your Eastern brothers, call them to meet Me under My roof, assemble your Eastern brothers into My Foundation, call them before Me. How I desire this unity!..."
When Christ dictates to me the messages, only I would know, since I am the receiver, when He talks to all of us, or when He talks to a certain person or if He switches from having talked to one particular person on to another or all of us. The same thing might happen if, eg, the Eternal Father speaks to me, then stops and the Son takes over to tell me something else. But usually in the latter, they introduce themselves in the beginning or the message is so clear that anyone could tell who is who. Coming back to the above passage that I changed so that I am not misunderstood, this was how it read:
"Peter! O Peter recognize the End of Times, how is it that most of you cannot tell the Times? Shadowed by Satan under his wings, O come Peter! Take My Hand; Satan has digressed you from the Truth! Take My Hand and I will guide you, hear My cry, assemble your Eastern brothers into My Foundation..." etc...
Here I will note, had I left it as it is when Jesus was speaking to the Pope and when Jesus was speaking to all of us, one might have misinterpreted this passage saying that Jesus is blaming the Pope, but normally no one should have misunderstood it since from the beginning Jesus asks us to honour Peter. Here below I will put in capital letters the parts concerning the Pope. The rest in normal letters will be when Jesus spoke to us. This is the original again:
"PETER! O PETER RECOGNIZE THE END OF TIMES." (Then Jesus turns to the world and says). "How is it that most of you cannot tell the Times?"(Christ’s voice drops here when He says to the world:) "Shadowed by Satan under his wings..."(then there was a pause here before Jesus cried out again). "O COME PETER! TAKE MY HAND."(Jesus had paused here again. The semi-colon represents a stop, notice there are no full-stops in the original handwritten version of True Life in God, just like in the Old Testament in Hebrew, no stop or capital letters were used, which is rather significant and interesting too since it is the living Word of God and God is the Alpha and the Omega - the Beginning and the End. Then Jesus said to us:) "Satan has digressed you from the Truth!"(Again turning to Peter He said) "TAKE MY HAND AND I WILL GUIDE YOU, HEAR MY CRY, ASSEMBLE YOUR EASTERN BROTHERS INTO MY FOUNDATION...etc"
We can always tell when Jesus started to say "Peter? O Peter recognize the End of Times,"that He was talking to Peter (the Pope), and it is by what follows that is very important because we can see that Christ was turning to speak to us too, since He said: "How is it that MOST OF YOU cannot tell the Times?"Many of the passages are to be taken metaphorically, not literally, but God knew that in our weakness and hardness of heart, we were bound to misinterpret His Word and He REGRETTED it. When Jesus said "Destroy this Temple, and I will raise it up again in three days" the Pharisees took him literally which was of course a total misrepresentation. In the same way, when Jesus speaks in metaphors in True Life in God one must look for the deeper meaning of the message - this is why I was instructed by God to delete certain passages for He "saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that the thoughts in his heart fashioned nothing but wickedness all day long." (Gn 6:5)
Vyvratenie osocenia zo spiritizmu je tu:
http://www.defending-vassula.org/handVyjadrenie knaza a exorcistu je tu:
http://www.defending-vassula.org/hand-curtya z neho vyberam:
Citácia:
A Letter of the Lord to His Church...
Jesus, in this End of Times, in this Time of the Nations, wishes to make us come in direct contact with the fact that it is truly He who is speaking with us and writing to us. The secretary in this case is without importance and should vanish from our eyes. This is true to such an extent that even her personal handwriting, which reveals her deepest being, should vanish behind this handwriting which is apparently impersonal and artificial but is on the contrary transcendent. Just as the individual personality of the typist-secretary reflected in her handwriting disappears totally behind the printed letters of the typewriter.
Here, it is therefore the Lord who speaks, the Man-God.
Vyvratenie udajnych doktrinalnych chyb.Okrem odpovedi na otazky CDF, na ktore odpoveda pani Vassula :
http://www.defending-vassula.org/cdfmozete si precitat aj nasledujuce zdovodnenie:
http://www.defending-vassula.org/errors_trinityCitácia:
A method which enables heresies to be found anywhere
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Therefore throughout the writings of Vassula the Divine Persons are portrayed – in conformity with the teaching of the Church – as really distinct from one another. There is not a single sentence in the entire work of ’True Life in God’ which could contain a trinitarian heresy, not even in those extracts which have been criticised as allegedly presenting the Divine Persons as having similar names. A trinitarian error could only be when there is clear assertion made of the following nature: "In God there is no relation of origin", "There is only one person in God", "The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the same Person", "I, Jesus Christ, am the same Person as the Father and the Holy Spirit", "The Father, Son and Holy Spirit identify themselves as Divine Persons, and do not distinguish themselves from one another as Persons". There are no such heretical statements that do not conform to the teaching of the Church in Vassula’s writings. If then, there are no doctrinal errors in ’True Life in God’, then how is it possible for the opponents of this work to allegedly find them? Those who attack this work know very well that they would be wasting their time in trying to find formal heresies – that is, those that are expressed unambiguously and intentionally – because they do not exist in this work. That is why they choose a particular method in order to find errors and heresies ’in spite of all’ and ’at any cost’.
What characterises this method? Its basis is simple. It is enough simply to read the text of ’True Life in God’ according to the following principle: when it is possible to interpret the messages of the Divine Persons either in the spirit of the teaching of the Church or contradictory to it, then the messages are given a meaning which is at variance with the teaching of the Church. Thanks to this method – which is applied with great glee with regard to Vassula’s writings – one can always arrive at the desired conclusion: that her writings negate the dogmas of the Church and spread heresies.
Such a way of interpreting the texts is, however, false. If it were applied also with regard to the Sacred Scriptures, there too one would be able to ’discover’ a multitude of ’heresies’.
This method is not only false but also immoral; it is contrary to God’s eighth Commandment, which forbids us to bear false witness against one’s neighbour, to slander him or to judge him rashly.
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(From an article of Fr. Michal Kaszowski, teacher of theology at the Archdiocesan Seminary, Katowice, Poland)
Vsetky tieto veci boli samozrejme predmetom skumania CDF, boli uspesne zodpovedane v prospech posolstiev TLIG.
Tymto pokladam vase osocovania za kompletne vyvratene.
Pripadne zotrvavanie na vasich predoslych tvrdenia je na vas ale uz to nema nic spolocne s pravdou.
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